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PostSubject: Barbarians   Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:34 am

So in a formal setting where you spar as a challenge and there are no moons up for contingency... if I challenge first they accept and Wail immediately and I die. Is there anything besides me accepting the challenge or contingency that will save me? I fear I know the answer already...
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:01 pm

Pre prep your spell. If they bitch about it oh well, they get to roar immediately why shouldn't you get to cast immediately?
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:55 pm

MMs are disadvantaged in duels especially against survival primaries and barbarians, so you'll need to be clever (and a bit sneaky) to even the odds.

Since you're already being gimped by the nature of duels, try to set it up so there are lots of 'spectators' around. This will decrease the effectiveness of his roars on everyone. You can also be super sneaky and try to hold hands with him right away which will force him to quickly try to kick you from his group before roaring since his group is unaffected. If he's set to avoid joining, then just hold hands with a spectator. Being grouped will up your roar defense quite a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:26 pm

Not a MM and I don't want to get out of my lane, but you could consider just leaving the room while you setup and RF back in.
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:29 pm

Mord - Pre-prep is no problem, it's that if I Challenge Barb, they Challenge Atazai Accept/Roar Wail. At macro speed. Was hoping there was some MM hack that works some sort of even minor miracle against roars that my stats/circle doesn't seem to hinder.

Fyrn - In the particular instance the crowd is watching via SHM and we're alone one v one (North Watch Spars). Feel like only the obvious 'never challenge first' is the only option. Was hoping there would be something else I could do.

Pariah - Yeah, as above it's the challenge aspect. Free for all no challenge I'm fine and I sneak and cheat like breathing.

Maybe it's just these are the breaks. I pre-prep shadow web usually, since some barbs I fight do zerk and dazzle won't hold. The web does have the 2 seconds before first pulse, but even if they get the wail off in that window the web hits immediately after and holds them longer than the wail holds me. I imagine up towards Dillo hunters this won't be feasible with the obligitory escaping everyone in dillos has.

I did forget about the hand holding. That may work. Thanks peoples.
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:56 pm

If you can move around, challenge and leave the room. IIRC you don't have to be in the same room to accept. Use dazzle to bait them into berserking, MB + Berserk = Win button
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:47 pm

I was not aware of this. Thank you. You have given me hope!
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:07 pm

hey, hope that worked, post the log of you owning said barbarian. I'd love to see the results (either way)
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PostSubject: Re: Barbarians   Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:03 pm

Assuming disc helps roar resist, throw up x+y IOE. Maybe charisma, so x+k. whatever
Get a roar resist cloak
Hide to lower the strength of the roar
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